Thread: Local law enforcement has lost credibility and integrity.

Originally Posted by notinkokomo

Boomer,

Curious here. What do you think of felony charges being filed against this man in mailbox incident?

NIK

The problem began when he used his Vol. FD blue lights to get the vandals. Indiana Law clearly defines the use of the blue light by vol. fire personal and the criminal charges that can be filed for the mis-use of the lights. I'm a FIRM believer in good old street justice and the right to make citizens arrests. At the Law Enforcement academy we were taught not to stress to the public that they do have the right to detain someone who has committed a crime until the proper authorities arrive. If he had detained them at the scene or followed them while calling the police he would have had no problems.

The officer would have just taken the suspects into custody, done a report and listed the gentleman as a witness to the crime. Unfortunately in some cases justice isn't blind and most likely because the blue light privilege and law was abused the suspects could possibly go free and the victim will be stuck with his own set of legal problems.. As I said before I don't always see eye to eye with the prosecutors office on their judgment calls!

For those who are thinking about using the "citizens arrest privilege" keep in mind you can not use force to detain someone unless the have committed a serious felony and they are a flight risk. You take a risk of being injured or even worse by trying to act and not waiting for the police. Also with today's "I can sue for any reason attitude", you've opened yourself up for a lawsuit if the case is lost in court or undue force is used. The best scenario is call the police, get a veh. or the persons description, a plate number and do not pursue the suspect at high speeds or recklessly. If you follow a suspect stay back, be inconspicuous and never, never try to make a traffic stop! ALWAYS CALL 911, DON'T BE A HERO!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Those kids deserved an a**-kicking!

I agree this guy needs to be let go because we as citizens have that right to defend our property. Oh wait!! not in the Flemming and Talbert show. you have no rights in their eyes especially if you work for them! Employment with the county means that the Constitution of the United States does not apply and you are ruled by a dictatorship.

Originally Posted by tired

I agree this guy needs to be let go because we as citizens have that right to defend our property. Oh wait!! not in the Flemming and Talbert show. you have no rights in their eyes especially if you work for them! Employment with the county means that the Constitution of the United States does not apply and you are ruled by a dictatorship.

Your attitude is why the system is broken! The guy violated the law by using the blue lights to make an illegal traffic stop. The kids and him should both be pros. for breaking the law.....It was a dumb move on his part, all he had to do is call the cops and follow the kids. Talk about over reaction to a situation, this is a good example of what happens when people take the law into their own hands.... Maybe the public needs to hunt down and deal with Mller and Baker for all their violations,

Originally Posted by tired

I agree this guy needs to be let go because we as citizens have that right to defend our property. Oh wait!! not in the Flemming and Talbert show. you have no rights in their eyes especially if you work for them! Employment with the county means that the Constitution of the United States does not apply and you are ruled by a dictatorship.

Sounds like Goodnight as Union President!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your attitude is why the system is broken! The guy violated the law by using the blue lights to make an illegal traffic stop. The kids and him should both be pros. for breaking the law.....It was a dumb move on his part, all he had to do is call the cops and follow the kids. Talk about over reaction to a situation, this is a good example of what happens when people take the law into their own hands.... Maybe the public needs to hunt down and deal with Mller and Baker for all their violations,

Still waiting for that to happen. Miller and Baker will never face the crimes they committed.

Instead of paying for the crime they committed they are to busy running their mouths with desires of how to pinpoint the crimes committed and still unsolved can be pinpointed on the victims that lost it all---including the evidence that would incrimate them. Call 911, for what...when the caller is an upstanding citizen and is trying to do the right thing, they (KPD-Admin) can turn around and say they won't get involved! Oh yeah, forgot, conflict of interest!

I understand there has been an investigation into a city police officer spending time at Paul Wymans house while on duty. I understand he was there for hours and leaving is car running the entire time. Is this true? What actions were taken?

Surely you're mistaken. Wyman's house is miles outside the city limits. Surely no Kokomo police officer would take a city car that far outside his jurisdiction.

It really never ends,does it............

Originally Posted by Old Buick

Surely you're mistaken. Wyman's house is miles outside the city limits. Surely no Kokomo police officer would take a city car that far outside his jurisdiction.

It really never ends,does it............

I do not think I am mistaken. My understanding is that this occurance began at the start of his shift. I also understand this incident is well documented.