Thread: Sheriffs candidate Harold Vincent

Some of these posts sound of opinion not based on fact. It makes no difference to me. Carry on.............

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

I understand your moral outrage. But what does that have to do with running a Sheriffs office or directing the deputy's ? It is not the priesthood and the county employees have proven that they need a strong leader.

Frequently we confuse the requirements needed to hold an office and lead with our moral or religious beliefs and forget that other people might have different standards as to what makes strong leaders.

I understand your point, however... Morals, ethics, integrity, leadership...the list goes on and on... At which point do we stop using our beliefs and faith and principles to gide us in our life? At what point do we as citizens in the United States stop drawing the line somewhere and just allow for the beliefs and faith that our country was founded, our Mid-West hard working blue collar attitude, go away? Especially when there is a better candidate. A line has to be drawn somewhere. I believe Vincent has crossed that line several times, and he has continued to do so in how he operates the Jail.

Never give up on your beliefs....or hopes. Sometimes that is all we have.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Morals have a lot to do with it. Why would anyone elect an offical to a high office like sheriff and not expect them to be a role model. This guy would be a role model for people who have no values or credibility. I cant stand Marty but I'd rather work for him then Vincent! At least Marty has morals, no common sense but morals.

Thank you! At least one person on this thread understands how important morals in public official is. Anyone who know, works with or associates with him knows his history and current track record. Anyone who say's it don't matter is a fool!

Our current and future officials need to be held accountable for ALL their actions. Look at Kokomo and Mckillip, Goodnight, Mitchell and Baker and you will see what happens when there is no credibility, morals, ethics or accountability. Look at the past two Sheriffs. One ran around on duty running his campaign for a state office while his Major and Captain/axeman covered his trail and lied for him. Another Sheriff was guilty of stealing money from the departments general fund to drywall his girlfriends house, buy personal computers and had to step down.

Two deputy's ran for Sheriff in the past, one failed to constantly pay taxes on his rental property's and the other had tons of outstanding debt and non-paid bills. Both were wiped out of the race because the info was in the paper.

The public demands accountability, not a saint. As someone already said "he would scare a New York pimp with what he has done", need I say more? As a voter in this community I look at qualification and their track record. My motto is, once a dirty butt, always a dirty butt!

KLD

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you! At least one person on this thread understands how important morals in public official is. Anyone who know, works with or associates with him knows his history and current track record. Anyone who say's it don't matter is a fool!

Our current and future officials need to be held accountable for ALL their actions. Look at Kokomo and Mckillip, Goodnight, Mitchell and Baker and you will see what happens when there is no credibility, morals, ethics or accountability. Look at the past two Sheriffs. One ran around on duty running his campaign for a state office while his Major and Captain/axeman covered his trail and lied for him. Another Sheriff was guilty of stealing money from the departments general fund to drywall his girlfriends house, buy personal computers and had to step down.

Two deputy's ran for Sheriff in the past, one failed to constantly pay taxes on his rental property's and the other had tons of outstanding debt and non-paid bills. Both were wiped out of the race because the info was in the paper.

The public demands accountability, not a saint. As someone already said "he would scare a New York pimp with what he has done", need I say more? As a voter in this community I look at qualification and their track record. My motto is, once a dirty butt, always a dirty butt!

KLD

Morals are a good thing but we are constantly looking past indiscretions when they are in our own party or they are providing something we want. Doesn't that bring in our own individual morals questions?

You just suggested several current and past office holders are crooked and stated several illegal acts that were committed. If what you state is true, why were they not prosecuted and convicted of these crimes? Or are you also stating the prosecutors and judges , as well as the law enforcement organizations are also crooked?

You state the public demands more and I agree. You need to come forward with your accusations and make the details public. Either they will go to jail or you will.

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Morals are a good thing but we are constantly looking past indiscretions when they are in our own party or they are providing something we want. Doesn't that bring in our own individual morals questions?

You just suggested several current and past office holders are crooked and stated several illegal acts that were committed. If what you state is true, why were they not prosecuted and convicted of these crimes? Or are you also stating the prosecutors and judges , as well as the law enforcement organizations are also crooked?

You state the public demands more and I agree. You need to come forward with your accusations and make the details public. Either they will go to jail or you will.

Marr was charged with theft, had to pay back the money and the pros. office used pre-trial diversion. McKinney was all over the papers for not paying his rental taxes (100+ rentals) and Walker had nothing happen to him about his failure to pay bills, he quit the department.
Beatty was exposed in the media for running a campaign while being paid with county tax dollars. As far as Vincent his suspensions are public record and the will be mentioned in the press before long, it's public record anyone can check.This is what the other poster is talking about.

Now we wait.

I see a lot of facts posted, lets all wait and see what the press does with the information about the candidates. The public will make their decisions with or without the opinions on this forum.

Since most information is public record, rest assured they will print it.

Public record or personel file?