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You should really READ the proposed Health Care Legislation, HR 3200.

We've obtained a copy, courtesy of a Congressman.

Click here for the PDF, all 1017 pages of it.

I was a little intimidated by Section 1233 (starting on page 424) that deals with "Advanced Care Planning Consultation".

Here's a quote from the section (page 427)
The bold part seems to suggest some scary intervention into personal health decisions in regard to "Life Sustaining Treatment".

Please let your Congressman AND Senators know your thoughts on this Bill.

Contact Rep. Dan Burton


Contact Rep. Steve Buyer

Contact Rep. Joe Donnelly


Contact Sen. Evan Bayh


Contact Sen. Richard Lugar

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Those provisions are speaking of preventive medicine and wellness programs. They are trying to establish better health to control cost and save lives.....
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Ben Stein wrote this article several days ago for the American Spectator Magazine.

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Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?

Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer," Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way too cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond naïveté, all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our future.

The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

The American people already know that Mr. Obama's plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never will be -- a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

These are perilous times. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to "protect us" from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms.

There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.
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Those provisions are speaking of preventive medicine and wellness programs. They are trying to establish better health to control cost and save lives.....
How do "preventive medicine and wellness programs" tie with "Life Sustaining Treatment"?

What does one have to do with the other?

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