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    Quote Originally Posted by LookOutKokomo View Post
    One thing I know everytime I log in here: My postings are not protected.

    You people who gripe about "free speech" really don't have a clue, or else your minds have been twisted by years of liberalism and public educations.

    Freedom of Speech means that the government cannot walk in and make John take down your posts because they run counter to the government's goals and plans. This is a constitutional protection.

    Freedom of Speech does NOT protect you from John deciding he wants to delete your posts on the bulletin board he maintains. It is his decision.

    In fact, the constitution doesn't protect you from NIK, or me, or any other citizen. It has been written to set boundaries only for the government. If you all realized this, and all the implications, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today. Instead you bury your heads up your asses and gripe about John while Obama\Pelosi\Sotomayer make plans to trample your freedoms.
    So the reality is that this is just like the liberal news media you complain about. You can easily slant the topics to how NIK wants them to run. Sounds fair to me!

    But the real issue I have is how one sided everyone in this country have become. You complain that Obama/Pelosi/Sotomayer are trampling our freedoms (which may be true) but are reluctant to realize that they were trampled on by our last President too. The only difference is that they used the belief that terrorists were going to bring our country down if we didn't abide by what they passed. See my belief is that people have lost the ability to think critically. We have become so partisan that if a Democrat makes a move, a Republican automatically cuts it down. If a Republican brings up an idea, a Democrat will bash it and call it worthless. Neither side has the ability to step back and see what their own party are doing. The parties themselves have turned into one permanent campaign to degrade the other party in order to pass their agenda. They do not run on ideas and actions but on marketing and persuasion. They get on the news and tell the American public that the other sides ideas are trash but never come up with a viable plan of their own.

    I don't understand how members of either party can be so strongly sided that they fail to see that both sides are guilty of the same misinformation and deceit. We continue to elect the same members of Congress who have continued to spend our money, trample our freedoms, and ignore the problems feeding America. All the while they point the finger at the opposite party and say they are bad for America.

    The government does not need to come in and shut down this website, newspaper, tv station because they have learned a better trick. They know that the people do not have time to research the major issues facing this country. By the time someone works 8 + hours, cooks dinner, takes the kids to sport practice, makes sure homework is completed, gets the kids in bed, looks over their own bills and takes care of their own household that there is no time to spend caring if a cap and trade energy bill will reduce carbon emissions. So they get on tv and spout propaganda how this person is against America or how a piece of legislature will make your children suffer in the future, pretty much scaring everyone into believing they are right. All the while, I never hear them present a viable plan. Thus they have used the media as a way to manipulate the public's thinking. All I am looking for is facts. If the Democrats say the cap and trade will add $175 to your energy bill in 5 years, tell me how you came up with that number. If Republicans say that they are not using all the facts and have fudged the numbers, tell me how you came up with a different number. I am intelligent enough to figure it out, but I have a busy life and can't spend hours mulling over all this.

    Then, for example if the Democrat proposed a piece of legislation to fix the economy, someone who did his homework and knows that it won't work gets labeled and a right wing nut job who is for the wealthy and hates the middle class. If they agree with the piece of legislature, then the right will come out and scream that they are liberals who wants a government official in every home to make sure you are not getting to wealthy so we can spread it around. So even if someone can provide factual information on how or how not it will affect the economy, it doesn't matter because they are automatically branded. Then half the population ignores that person because they are "the other side". So those of us with busy lives continue to turn on Fox News or MSNBC and have them think for us and tell us how horrible the other side is running this country.

    Yes Barack Obama is spending way to much money for a stimulus that isn't working(Congress can stop that if they want), Yes Barack Obama is pushing through cap and trade that will do nothing to stop carbon emissions while causing an increase in energy (Congress can stop that if they want), Yes George Bush used false information to lead us into a war that has lasted 6 years (Congress could have stopped that if they wanted), Yes George Bush bailed out the banks and AIG with no accountability.

    The biggest problem is that you have all the Republicans in this country saying that Barack Obama is wrong and shouldn't be spending money and the Democrats are saying its necessary. But not one of them truly knows why they believe it except that they are just following their parties. If George Bush did what Barack Obama is doing now, every Republican would be on tv saying it is necessary for our economy and the Democrats would be screaming how the Republicans are damaging our future.

    The best thing we can do as citizens is to look past what party they are and take a critical eye to each issue. For once in your life, use your own mind to make a decision instead of what your "party" says is correct. I for one will never support one party or the other any longer. Not while Republicans and Democrats continue to talk out of both sides of their mouths.

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    THAT, Mr. Fister.... is an OUTSTANDING POST!!!!!

    As a Conservative, I feel the very same way in many respects. I think G.W. meant well, but he was a lousy President in a lot of areas.

    I lost all confidence in the man when he let our Congress ram through huge amounts of pork in the transportation bill renewal halfway through his first term (as I recall).

    You know, I have friends who are liberal and we enjoy discussing issues and learning more about each others opinions and knowledge.

    Often, we end up agreeing on points we thought were far-apart from each other ideologically.

    Personally, I think both political parties have lost their way, and WINNING has become more important than the principles they once stood for and represented.

    I also blame the media (on both sides of issues) for editorializing rather than reporting. This is the 'dumbing down' of America that scares the living daylights out of me.

    Thanks for the post, Fister. Well said, indeed!

    NIK

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    My posting here didnt occur until late into Bush's second term, but I can assure you that I did in fact criticize his spending, particularly in terms of the bailouts at the end and in the prescription drug benefit. He also allowed a ton of pork to go through... I always assumed that Bush was giving away the farm on spending and domestic issues in order to prosecute the war.

    As for the war, I am still a supporter. I think it is a strategic move that will pay dividends in the not so long term... allow me to explain:

    Bush went to Iraq with a list of 15 or so reasons that he explained. When asked what was the worst thing that could happen as a result of disregarding the situation, he obviously said WMD. The media ran with that.

    At that time, Hussein couldn't account for all the WMD he had previously declared in his inventory. Knowing that fact, anyone would agree that one of the following was true:

    1. SH had either shared his weapons with other nations or terror groups
    2. He had used them on his own people
    3. They had been stolen because he couldn't protect them
    4. He had lost them
    5. He never had them, but was using an empty threat of WMD on his neighbors.

    In any of these cases, I agree with Bush that it is in America's best interest to remove that regime.

    But aside from the WMD thing, there were plenty of other reasons to remove him... such as his claims to have spend 30 million making payments to families of terrorists etc...

    Now... to the real reason why I still support the war. It has placed us exactly where we need to be... troops on both sides of Iran while they threaten the world with nuclear proliferation. It is a strategic placement of troops. Nothing less. As a matter of fact, I'd imagine that it was the prime motivator for the Bush administration, even though they couldn't market it as such.


    you seem to peg me as a GOP lackey... That, I am not. I am indeed looking issue by issue at the proposals coming down the pipe. It just happens that a bunch of socialists control the pipe right now, and they are proposing socialist ideas. I think they will hurt our country, so I've written against them.

    I'll continue to do so.

    Perhaps one day I'll find the time to write a hit piece on GWB, perhaps that will satisfy you... right now though, there are bigger things popping that will ultimately challenge my freedom.

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    Our track record as voters is pretty pathetic; first McKickback; then Goofnight. I'm thinking WE need to START thinking, or Mister "My favorite word is "Sold" will be our next shitty mayor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Our track record as voters is pretty pathetic; first McKickback; then Goofnight. I'm thinking WE need to START thinking, or Mister "My favorite word is "Sold" will be our next shitty mayor.
    Wyman would have to move before filing for candidacy. As is, he is ineligible.

    I suspect this is why he is such a proponent of Unigov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookOutKokomo View Post
    Wyman would have to move before filing for candidacy. As is, he is ineligible.

    I suspect this is why he is such a proponent of Unigov.
    And what makes you the expert on this matter, your blog? LOL
    Such a expert on all topice please share more with us about Wyman and others so we can laugh some more, ole one of wisdom. Sound like someone who cut it in politics now just sit back wishing and make lame posts................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    And what makes you the expert on this matter, your blog? LOL
    Such a expert on all topice please share more with us about Wyman and others so we can laugh some more, ole one of wisdom. Sound like someone who cut it in politics now just sit back wishing and make lame posts................................
    Why are you attacking this post, or the poster ??? All he stated was the facts. Is that too hard for you to understand ????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookOutKokomo View Post
    Wyman would have to move before filing for candidacy. As is, he is ineligible.

    I suspect this is why he is such a proponent of Unigov.
    Thanks for the link... I like Wyman more now after reading the article.. I want smaller government to... seems this site bashes elected officials and people talking bad about government -- lets make it smaller. Do you have any other things he wrote that you could post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Thanks for the link... I like Wyman more now after reading the article.. I want smaller government to... seems this site bashes elected officials and people talking bad about government -- lets make it smaller. Do you have any other things he wrote that you could post?
    Yeah, Unigov is ok by me.

    But, Wyman lost any chance of a vote from me by being a rat on annexation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Thanks for the link... I like Wyman more now after reading the article.. I want smaller government to... seems this site bashes elected officials and people talking bad about government -- lets make it smaller. Do you have any other things he wrote that you could post?
    Yep, go read his outdated blog on the issues. There is always one who believes he know the answers to everything and I believe LookOut is that person. Its soooo funny to sit back and see all the right wing things he believes about the canidates. Like Wyman, ole LookOut's statement that Wyman has lost his vote, who cares your just one little vote. Im still laughing from his annexiation blog posts and the way posters alway made fun of him and his little blog when he came to NIK. I bet you believe skin computer chips are next so the goverment can track you, right. Welcome to the twilght zone or the LookOut zone.

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